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 Post subject: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:05 pm  (#1) 
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Why don't we talk a little bit about what's new in the upcoming Gimp 2.8 that isn't in 2.6 that we're most excited about?


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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:14 pm  (#2) 
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Layer Groups are first in my book. :)

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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:29 pm  (#3) 
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Yeah that is a pretty big deal. I'm a big fan of the new tabbed interface for open documents. That makes transferring layers from one image to another SO MUCH EASIER.


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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:34 pm  (#4) 
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Yeah that is a pretty big deal. I'm a big fan of the new tabbed interface for open documents. That makes transferring layers from one image to another SO MUCH EASIER.


I am real happy they added a close option to the tabs also. :bigthup

Brush Dynamics was also a big step. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:51 pm  (#5) 
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I don't know much about 2.8 as I only have Partha's 2.7.6 portable to go on. I don't have much use for the new features in the brush engine, but others seem impressed. The problem with single window mode is that I can't create a duplicate as a thumbnail to pin on top. The cage tool that I looked forward to distorts the picture horribly - Iwarp is a far superior tool. I'm going to have to wait for the final release to make my final judgement but the telling point for me is whether Gimp Painter can be made to work with 2.8 or not.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:56 pm  (#6) 
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I am the same Erisian, The cage tool for me is not very impressive and iwarp sucks. As for the rest, we will just have to wait and see.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:58 pm  (#7) 
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An eraser and brush work well! :hehe


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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:01 pm  (#8) 
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Haven't participated that heavily in the betas (only toyed with it some). I can care less about single window. I'm a filter guy as most here know. I do wish Filter Factory Convertor (user filter) and Mathmap could be compiled for 64-bit but it doesn't look like it will so I'm thinking about passing on GIMP 2.8 for a few months or a year and stay with 2.6.12; maybe these plugins will get a 64-bit compile for Windows, but I seriously doubt it. Of course, I could just install the 32-bit version for GIMP 2.8, but I really want to go 64-bit. Maybe the GIMP developers could allow both 32 and 64-bit versions to install simultaneously like they do for Photoshop. Then I can use Shellout for the occasional times I need Filter Factory or Mathmap (well, it's more then occasional for me; lol). Nahh; just going to pass for now (unless they do decide to implement full node editing or 16-bit/channel editing; I can be persuaded. lol). :)

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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:06 pm  (#9) 
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about gimpainter:

most likely yes, because its code is kept in synchrony with that of 2.7 (well there was no changes from long but the difference obetween gimp and gimpainter consist in just 2 tools so no much changes are required

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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:08 pm  (#10) 
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Maybe the GIMP developers could allow both 32 and 64-bit versions to install simultaneously like they do for Photoshop.


not sure for the gimp developers but Partha (and so I) already allow that

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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:13 pm  (#11) 
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what you do with the Filter Factory Convertor that you can't do better with the good old FilterUnlimited ?
The advantage would be that the FFC is opensource and not just free (but i doubt you may consider that too relevant) and that the userfilter allow to edit the old FF filters with a less limited language (but as far i know ifrom its release years ago nobody yet edited a single filter if not in secret )

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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:17 pm  (#12) 
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Maybe the GIMP developers could allow both 32 and 64-bit versions to install simultaneously like they do for Photoshop.


not sure for the gimp developers but Partha (and so I) already allow that


If that means I can install 2.8 alongside 2.6.11 (As full install - not portable) then I think I'll use your version. It'll give me chance to experiment.


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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:24 pm  (#13) 
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There should be an issue with this anyway Erisian. I've had 2.2, 2.4, and 2.6 installed simultaneously before with no problem. Even now, I have 1.2.4 and 2.6.12 installed (had also 2.7x, but just now uninstalled all the betas that I had). I'll wait to see what happens when 2.8x gets finally released (script-fu and plugin compatibility, stability, and ability) before I decide to upgrade. As buggy as the 2.6x fork has been, at least it's been quite capable for my needs when it doesn't freeze on me. :)

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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:38 pm  (#14) 
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Thanks Lyle. I'll give it a shot and if I have problems, I'll uninstall.

Photocomix - I didn't know there was a Painter 2.7. Do you have a link?


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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:10 pm  (#15) 
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Erisian wrote:
The cage tool that I looked forward to distorts the picture horribly - Iwarp is a far superior tool.


To illustrate, here's the original.
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Here's with Iwarp
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And this is the best I could achieve with the cage tool
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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:53 pm  (#16) 
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If that means I can install 2.8 alongside 2.6.11 (As full install - not portable) then I think I'll use your version. It'll give me chance to experiment.


not sure if i must define portable for sure may be easily used as portable

But as far i know the full -install version doesn't offer any advantage, only some disadvantage:
the only drawback i know is from using portable apps from external drive , in that case the usb connection may be a bottleneck and so slow down respect the full install version, but if installed on the main drive there is no any difference in speed

about disadvantage of the full-install version ,at least about gimp, in years that i contribute to gimp help forum, all weird problems that could not be solved in any way where simply solved by replacing with portable version

less generically the normal version are much more easily victims of dll conflict (not only with other version of gimp , simply if some other program use similar dll the full-install gimp may become very quirky when not totally unusable

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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:42 am  (#17) 
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tstandiford wrote:
Why don't we talk a little bit about what's new in the upcoming Gimp 2.8 that isn't in 2.6 that we're most excited about?


For me, 2.8 doesn't appear to be offering anything new that I'd use. Because of the lack of bit-depth I do as much as I can with my photographs in Photivo and mostly only use GIMP to tidy-up at the end.

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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:39 am  (#18) 
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Erisian sorry for my late reply:
there is the code of gimpainter 2.7 but i believe nobody compiled yet for windows

till few time ago was not even the case for a bug in 2.7 affliting the use of graphic tablets, now the bug is if not fully solved greatly minimized so i hope for a build soon

i knew Rod was trying and also partha was interested

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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:59 am  (#19) 
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Thanks PC, let's hope so.


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 Post subject: Re: With Gimp 2.8 Coming Up
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:46 pm  (#20) 
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The layer groups are promising. It's also nice that the brush engine is seeing some more love - it's a good sign for the future. I must admit that I don't use GIMP much for pure painting anymore though - I mostly rely on MyPaint for the actual painting and use GIMP for adjustment and post-processing.

Gimp Painter is an unsupported hack and is technically a dead end as far as I know - has this changed?
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