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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC plug-in for GIMP updates to version 1.5.1.0
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:33 pm  (#21) 
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@Ronounours, Can you add in G'MIC dialog a filter search field to find filters by keywords?

Thanks again!


I third that idea; it is getting a little hard to remember where all the various presets are now. lol

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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC plug-in for GIMP updates to version 1.5.1.0
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:52 pm  (#22) 
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Don't know if you guys saw this when it was posted but here is a list that may help if you print it out and stick it up somewhere.
The attachment is below.
The odt.tar.gz is for Lunux and the Rar is for windows.

To open these, just right click and click extract here then open as a word document.


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GMIC-alphabetical.rar [4.9 KiB]
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GMIC-alphabetical.odt.tar.gz [12.8 KiB]
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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC plug-in for GIMP updates to version 1.5.1.0
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:17 pm  (#23) 
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It would probably call for a different separate executable to be added to GMIC. :)
Something like Gimps Plug-in Browser under Help.

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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC plug-in for GIMP updates to version 1.5.1.0
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:37 pm  (#24) 
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Wait couldn't one be called from the gmic file?
Like the About category?
Then maybe a link from the search area (hyper link to the actual filter?)

Something like this?
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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC plug-in for GIMP updates to version 1.5.1.0
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:58 am  (#25) 
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I don't really get the idea to be honest. There are very few words used in each filter definition (in definition, I mean filter name and associated parameters names), and most of the parameters names are quite 'generic' (width, amplitude, angle,...), so they have no interest for a keyword match.
So, the search engine could only search over the filter names, which seems really useless to me, because either you already know the filter name (in that case, you don't really need a search engine, you just need a way to remember where it is, which is quite different in my opinion), either you don't know the filter name, and in this case you probably won't find it ever by using a keyword search.

To me, the use a keyword search engine would imply that there are 'tags' associated to each filters, and in this case, yes, having a search engine would be great and useful. But adding 'tags' to filters is a hard and laborious task and I doubt this is something essential to add now to the plug-in (after all, there are only about 300 filters when all additional filters are enabled).

Now, if you want a complete list of filters, why not pushing the 'zoom in' button below the filter list, it will open all subfolders and you can easily navigate in the filter list. This is how I proceed when I don't remember where one particular filter is. Still, I think that if all filters were correctly (I mean 'logically') sorted, we shouldn't have to care about the way of finding a filter. If the sorting follows a kind of logic, this could solve the problem in my opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC plug-in for GIMP updates to version 1.5.1.0
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:03 am  (#26) 
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Yeah i really didn't see how it helped much either.
By zoom button you mean the one on the bottom right?

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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC plug-in for GIMP updates to version 1.5.1.0
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:59 am  (#27) 
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I was talking about the button located right to the "Internet" checkbox, below the filter tree.


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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC plug-in for GIMP updates to version 1.5.1.0
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:30 am  (#28) 
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Ronounours wrote:
To me, the use a keyword search engine would imply that there are 'tags' associated to each filters, and in this case, yes, having a search engine would be great and useful. But adding 'tags' to filters is a hard and laborious task and I doubt this is something essential to add now to the plug-in (after all, there are only about 300 filters when all additional filters are enabled).

I was referring only to the names of the filters (not the content).
For example. A modern application launcher menu of an operating system usually has a quick search field to find applications. Yes, you can navigate through the menu until find the application as it did with the traditional launcher menu. But it is often useful to use the search field. That's the concept to which I refer.
Imagine, you on your system probably has far fewer programs installed that filters in G'MIC. So I think that if the filters have a correct name to describe what it do (mostly in G'MIC already has a good descriptive name), a quick search field can be useful.
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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC plug-in for GIMP updates to version 1.5.1.0
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:22 am  (#29) 
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Ronounours wrote:
I don't really get the idea to be honest. There are very few words used in each filter definition (in definition, I mean filter name and associated parameters names), and most of the parameters names are quite 'generic' (width, amplitude, angle,...), so they have no interest for a keyword match.
So, the search engine could only search over the filter names, which seems really useless to me, because either you already know the filter name (in that case, you don't really need a search engine, you just need a way to remember where it is, which is quite different in my opinion), either you don't know the filter name, and in this case you probably won't find it ever by using a keyword search......


Could do that too David; forgot about the plus button. :)

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 Post subject: Re: G'MIC plug-in for GIMP updates to version 1.5.1.0
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:54 pm  (#30) 
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Well i am going to keep the version i created and just update and add it to each new def file. :)
I kind of like being able to scroll down that list with bright colors and find exactly where that filter is hiding.

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