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 Post subject: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:14 am  (#1) 
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Got this story from Slashdot. Apparently there's a program called Helium that can optimizer/repair code better then any human can. It works on the binary level (not traditionally used by coders) as well so no need for debuggers. They tout that it can even optimize programs like Irfanview 400% to 500%. I wonder what it could do for the GIMP? :)

http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2015/computer ... neers-0609

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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:57 am  (#2) 
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I wonder what it could do for the GIMP? :)

Since GIMP is open source (actually free software), it probably can't do anything. If you need GIMP optimized to support newer hardware, recompile from the original source.

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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:39 pm  (#3) 
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The robot take over is coming.

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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:13 am  (#4) 
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lylejk wrote:
Got this story from Slashdot. Apparently there's a program called Helium that can optimizer/repair code better then any human can. It works on the binary level (not traditionally used by coders) as well so no need for debuggers. They tout that it can even optimize programs like Irfanview 400% to 500%. I wonder what it could do for the GIMP? :)

http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2015/computer ... neers-0609


Looks like a good decompiler :) They mention it can be used to recompile code for different architectures, but this means that the program must understand very well the source architecture (and the tricks the programmers use on it). This is where things get complicated.

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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:25 am  (#5) 
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Sounds like more people will be out of work.


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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:47 am  (#6) 
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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:09 am  (#7) 
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A quick reality check for anybody who thinks that robots are about to take over:

www.youtube.com Video from : www.youtube.com


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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:44 am  (#8) 
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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:29 pm  (#9) 
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Rod wrote:
Sounds like more people will be out of work.

No, they will do other things... In the 50s everything was done in assembler, then they invented high-level languages. This didn't put any single coder out of a job.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:31 pm  (#10) 
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Thank God they decided not to give this one a jaw Tux. lolol

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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:33 pm  (#11) 
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jontait2 wrote:
A quick reality check for anybody who thinks that robots are about to take over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... 0TaYhjpOfo


Robots should have the right to get drunk Wallace; look at Bender. lolol

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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:18 pm  (#12) 
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Don't fall for it!

Google will usher in the impending Robot Apocalypse. :hehe

"Success in creating AI would be the biggest event in human history. Unfortunately, it might also be the last, unless we learn how to avoid the risks." -
You can take one for a walk without a doggy doo bag and shovel.

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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:01 am  (#13) 
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lylejk wrote:
Thank God they decided not to give this one a jaw Tux. lolol

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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:41 am  (#14) 
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I was told a long time ago that a computer can do nothing that a human can do already. Who do you think puts the information in computers in the first place?

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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:22 am  (#15) 
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lylejk wrote:
Thank God they decided not to give this one a jaw Tux. lolol

:)


Someday it will have a laser instead, AT-AT style :)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:11 am  (#16) 
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sallyanne wrote:
I was told a long time ago that a computer can do nothing that a human can do already. Who do you think puts the information in computers in the first place?

But what's scary/creepy/exciting about computer is that we tell it rules and methods...and then it is able to do that those rules and methods millions of times faster than us.
Like for example, we tell it to how to add a number to a number, and it's able to addition without us telling it the answers of all possible questions.
Also computer learning is even more creepy..i don't know if you've read about Google Deepmind play Atari games. But Deepmind is able to teach itself to play like 50 Atari games and do better than average person and Deepmind was able to come up with some strategies that people didn't even know existed before so they end up learning from Deepmind too.

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 Post subject: Re: Coders beware.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:23 pm  (#17) 
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trandoductin wrote:
sallyanne wrote:
I was told a long time ago that a computer can do nothing that a human can do already. Who do you think puts the information in computers in the first place?

But what's scary/creepy/exciting about computer is that we tell it rules and methods...and then it is able to do that those rules and methods millions of times faster than us.
Like for example, we tell it to how to add a number to a number, and it's able to addition without us telling it the answers of all possible questions.
Also computer learning is even more creepy..i don't know if you've read about Google Deepmind play Atari games. But Deepmind is able to teach itself to play like 50 Atari games and do better than average person and Deepmind was able to come up with some strategies that people didn't even know existed before so they end up learning from Deepmind too.


A game is never that complex. To sell it must be playable by the average person. And even without that marketing bound it won't be more complex than what the developers can code... That still makes it a lot less complex than real life.

But it's true that computers can sometime exhibit unexpected behavior. Sometimes, it's bugs, sometimes it's AI, sometimes it's Microsoft idiosyncrasies.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:12 pm  (#18) 
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jontait2 wrote:
lylejk wrote:
Thank God they decided not to give this one a jaw Tux. lolol

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