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 Post subject: Re: Here's my effort at getting free energy
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:18 pm  (#21) 
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I still think it's worth experimenting.
I meant it to be used in addition to collecting H and O as gasses that can be used for combustion.
And also not for the bubbles to hit the fan blades but let it go up and put the fan blades near where bubbles move.
Like the fish aquarium, things don't have to be directly above bubbles for current to start moving things. Having lower pressure will move the water once you have movement.
Also I don't mean to necessary have bubbles at all just as long as there is difference in pressure, water will move.
I just look at this this way, it takes a certain amount of energy to push an air filled balloon down 1 meter. and it takes more energy to push it down 2 meters but electrolysis breaks this rule it doesn't take more energy to create bubbles (or if deeper then gasses) at deeper depths.
It's too bad I don't have the equipment or enough knowledge to do these experiments on my own.

Or a really good physics simulator would let people experiment with this concept too.

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 Post subject: Re: Here's my effort at getting free energy
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:30 pm  (#22) 
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trandoductin wrote:
I still think it's worth experimenting.
I meant it to be used in addition to collecting H and O as gasses that can be used for combustion.

What will you do with this combustion, boil water? If so your electrolysis system is the less efficient way to produce energy.

Actually with any type of combustion/heat, to get energy (electricity) we (humanity) boil water...
Basically, nuclear power plans are just super tec kettles, even the ITER, tokamak type, fusion reactor there are building in France will be to have a 23rd century super kettle to... boil water.
No need to say that the later is experimental, but this type of energy will never be free, even if it produce more electricity than we input > just the cost of that plan is so huge that all Europe is involved (including UK and Switzerland) as well as many other countries around the world like Japan etc..., and I don't even speak about the amount of specialized staffs and the maintenance cost of such a system.

Having said that, I mean, we know a lot better than electrolysis to produce heat to boil water.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:05 am  (#23) 
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Just checking-out this thread. I think PixLab is referring to the Second law of thermodynamics and maybe trandoductin is looking for a way around it.

I'm impressed with this guy from Canada who is putting out a science video per day.

Maybe you'll get some ideas? He does the graphics with Windows only software.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:29 am  (#24) 
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I recommnend checking out Swaruu Oficial on YT. Mari is the creator there, and she's made videos about zero point energy, which IS free energy. She's constantly covers topics that are quite advanced intellectually and spiritually, such as space travel, portals, and technology that's being suppressed here on Earth. I can watch one of her of videos and right away my vibration, my frequency, will rise. So go ahead reward yourself, and prepare for what's coming, by opening your mind and dreams to this one.

https://www.youtube.com/@SwaruuOficial

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:27 pm  (#25) 
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yeah exactly, trying to break the 2nd law or not, just by the fact that deep water is always there and it refills itself on top.
Meant it to be alternative energy except it's not always windy or sunny, but deep water is always there, if combustion and water tides could use to generate electricity that refeeds the system then we just need to get a little deeper than the break even point. That was my whole train of thought.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:06 am  (#26) 
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Tas_mania wrote:
Just checking-out this thread. I think PixLab is referring to the Second law of thermodynamics and maybe trandoductin is looking for a way around it.

I'm impressed with this guy from Canada who is putting out a science video per day.
Maybe you'll get some ideas? He does the graphics with Windows only software.

So you are a Wonderful Person as well :yes ,
I'm a long time subscriber to his channel too, although I don't watch his videos lately (I just forgot), very cool guy (I was very sad for him when he lost his baby son few years ago).

In all case thanks a lot for the reminder, I just watched few of his videos, I did forget how interesting they are :coolthup
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 1:56 pm  (#27) 
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During my chat with ChatGPT I did mention what if I don't want to go to deep and just use buoyancy saved up in large amount. ChatGPT said something like that could be useful since cruise ships are super heavy and they are use buoyancy. So I am sure saved up buoyancy can lift heavy loads which can/might translate into moving gears that can be stepped down/up to create electricity too.
Too bad I don't have connections to people/resources that can perform these experiments.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:34 pm  (#28) 
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I want to give or suggest this idea to BC Hydro so their research team might have resources to prove or disprove this concept.
But can't find their email address for such topics.

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 Post subject: Re: Here's my effort at getting free energy
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:43 pm  (#29) 
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I opened a request to share my idea since they have engineers that can look into this idea. Hopefully they reply.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 12:39 am  (#30) 
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My dream is one day energy will indeed be free (or for all practical purposes, free), Tran. Water and energy should be free; food not so (have to hunt or earn your bacon). Just my philosophy on life. Have researched a lot of topics on LENR (Dr. Rossi and many others) literally creating a super catalyzer if you don't want to call it cold fusion. Also Thorium reactors. Not a fan of ITER and believe any possible benefit comes at too much a cost. Hot fusion is completely bunk to me. Best to pursue safe Fission technologies or Cold Fusion, imo. As for creating cheap hydrogen, you better watch out. They ended a man for doing so (Stanley Myer). :)

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 Post subject: Re: Here's my effort at getting free energy
PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:47 pm  (#31) 
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but if energy is free, then robots are free since it takes energy to make. and if robots are free, the rest would be free too. as long as people don't over use it all

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2025 5:28 am  (#32) 
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And don't even think of powering a car motor with water. Someone got ended for that idea as well. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Here's my effort at getting free energy
PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2025 6:08 am  (#33) 
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Mari Swa on her channel "Swaruu Oficial" on YouTube has described how zero point energy is created. Apparently, there's a revolutionary speed that overcomes a threshold. I highly recommend watching her videos.

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 Post subject: Re: Here's my effort at getting free energy
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2025 9:10 am  (#34) 
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trandoductin wrote:
I still think it's worth experimenting.
I meant it to be used in addition to collecting H and O as gasses that can be used for combustion.
And also not for the bubbles to hit the fan blades but let it go up and put the fan blades near where bubbles move.
Like the fish aquarium, things don't have to be directly above bubbles for current to start moving things. Having lower pressure will move the water once you have movement.
Also I don't mean to necessary have bubbles at all just as long as there is difference in pressure, water will move.
I just look at this this way, it takes a certain amount of energy to push an air filled balloon down 1 meter. and it takes more energy to push it down 2 meters but electrolysis breaks this rule it doesn't take more energy to create bubbles (or if deeper then gasses) at deeper depths.
It's too bad I don't have the equipment or enough knowledge to do these experiments on my own.

Or a really good physics simulator would let people experiment with this concept too.


Yeah, that’s actually a pretty cool line of thought.

The idea of using pressure differentials and bubble flow for motion reminds me of some old DIY hydro experiments I saw on YouTube years back. You’re right — electrolysis doesn’t scale linearly with depth the same way mechanical pressure does, so there’s probably some interesting efficiency quirks to explore there.

A proper simulator could definitely help visualize the flow patterns and energy dynamics without needing a full lab setup.I used to think Getbetter website was overkill until my third test cycle. First two I ran without it—no major sides, just a little water bloat. But during the third one, around week 5, I started getting itchy nips and insane mood swings.


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