What Is Wilber? SOLVED

sallyanne · **Posted:** Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:50 am **(#21)**

Meaning of names - Wilber is Wilful, Bright

http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/pregnan ... mes/wilber

molly · **Joined:** Apr 07, 2010 **Posts:** 14182

The Warrior wrote:

molly wrote:

I agree that Wilber should stay just the way he/she is.

Wilber would be a funny name for a girl, haha. :hehe

Wilberine

The Warrior · **Joined:** Jun 02, 2013 **Posts:** 2090

molly wrote:

The Warrior wrote:

molly wrote:

I agree that Wilber should stay just the way he/she is.

Wilber would be a funny name for a girl, haha. :hehe

Wilberine

Haha, there ya go. :bigthup

Wallace · **Posted:** Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:27 am **(#24)**

molly wrote:

Wilberine

How's this?

molly · **Joined:** Apr 07, 2010 **Posts:** 14182

Love it Wallace, the eyelashes make her female for sure,

Wallace · **Posted:** Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:33 am **(#26)**

molly wrote:

Love it Wallace, the eyelashes make her female for sure,

Thanks Molly.
I lowered the ears and made the nose a bit smaller. The eyelashes and bow really set it off. I also added some color to her nose.
She could use some kind of earring, what do you think Molly?

molly · **Joined:** Apr 07, 2010 **Posts:** 14182

A Diamond stud would be great, if not, maybe a matching pink one, :teeth

Wallace · **Posted:** Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:39 am **(#28)**

molly wrote:

A Diamond stud would be great, if not, maybe a matching pink one, :teeth

Would you like to add the earring?

The Warrior · **Joined:** Jun 02, 2013 **Posts:** 2090

Wallace wrote:

molly wrote:

Wilberine

How's this?
[ Image ]

Just when you think you've seen it all. :roll:

Aren't you the one that worried about Wilber having an identity crisis, lol? :hehe

Wallace wrote:

I'm a bit disappointed to find out that Wilber's own creator referred to Wilber as being a "joke".
This may also be part of the reason why Gimp isn't taken all that seriously. When it's own creators make light of what is now a mainstay of it's platform.
I'm not a "stick in the mud", but this lighthearted approach seems to perpetuate Gimp's stigma as a viable alternative to any other image manipulation software.
It's no wonder that some people laugh when you tell them that you use Gimp.

I don't feel that Wilber's overall appearance needs a change, but I do feel that Wilber as a mascot suffers form an "Identity Crisis". It's high time that this "crisis" should be over with, and Gimp/Wilber transform from adolescence and emergence into adulthood, with some kind of firm identity.

Wallace · **Posted:** Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:58 am **(#30)**

The Warrior wrote:

Wallace wrote:

molly wrote:

Wilberine

How's this?
[ Image ]

Just when you think you've seen it all. :roll:

Aren't you the one that worried about Wilber having an identity crisis, lol? :hehe

Wallace wrote:

I'm a bit disappointed to find out that Wilber's own creator referred to Wilber as being a "joke".
This may also be part of the reason why Gimp isn't taken all that seriously. When it's own creators make light of what is now a mainstay of it's platform.
I'm not a "stick in the mud", but this lighthearted approach seems to perpetuate Gimp's stigma as a viable alternative to any other image manipulation software.
It's no wonder that some people laugh when you tell them that you use Gimp.

I don't feel that Wilber's overall appearance needs a change, but I do feel that Wilber as a mascot suffers form an "Identity Crisis". It's high time that this "crisis" should be over with, and Gimp/Wilber transform from adolescence and emergence into adulthood, with some kind of firm identity.

I thought that I might get some support with what I was thinking, but no one seemed to think it was a issue.
So, "what's good for the goose is good for the gander", I guess.
I didn't feel that "gender" was ever an issue anyway. :hehe

The Warrior · **Joined:** Jun 02, 2013 **Posts:** 2090

Wallace wrote:

I didn't feel that "gender" was ever an issue anyway. :hehe

Should I email Tuomas again, lol? :hehe

Just kidding man, it's all good. :bigthup

Wallace · **Posted:** Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:08 pm **(#32)**

The Warrior wrote:

Wallace wrote:

I didn't feel that "gender" was ever an issue anyway. :hehe

Should I email Tuomas again, lol? :hehe

Just kidding man, it's all good. :bigthup

I don't think he cares either way, but with a name like "Wilber", it's obvious what the intended gender was meant to be.

MrGlaceon · **Joined:** Jan 26, 2014 **Posts:** 28

I can totally see Wilber being Willy. XD This is tempting to do a personified female version of GIMP, OS-tan style.

David Wood wrote:

I agree, most people laugh at Gimp because it's free or lacks features that are taken for granted in Photoshop, like the transform tool or layer styles, not because of the mascot. Now those problems can be pretty easily fix with 3rd party plugins but the biggest drawback to taking it seriously is the lack of CMYK support. If 2.10 or 3.0 had that I bet a lot more people will respect the program and I'm sure a lot of businesses would switch to it instead worrying about Photoshop licenses.

The Colors Dialog begs to differ on the total lack of CMYK support, although it is pretty difficult understand how well GIMP supports CMYK formally. We always have open source alternatives for that with Krita either way, which is used professionally by some artists.

Wallace · **Posted:** Thu May 01, 2014 12:00 am **(#34)**

MrGlaceon wrote:

I can totally see Wilber being Willy. XD This is tempting to do a personified female version of GIMP, OS-tan style.

Have you seen this?
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10265&start=20#p134892

David Wood · **Posted:** Wed May 07, 2014 10:07 am **(#35)**

MrGlaceon wrote:

The Colors Dialog begs to differ on the total lack of CMYK support, although it is pretty difficult understand how well GIMP supports CMYK formally. We always have open source alternatives for that with Krita either way, which is used professionally by some artists.

Yes Gimp has the CMYK color dialog, but that has nothing to do with supporting CMYK. You need the CMYK color profile when you save an image to support it. You can only save an image as RGB, greyscale, or indexed. So Gimp has no CMYK support.

Gino D · **Joined:** Nov 06, 2012 **Posts:** 239 **Location:** Italy

Thanks, Warrior, for helping to ultimately clarify the issue about the real nature and origin of Wilber. I have always been wondering what the lovely GIMP's mascot would exactly represent, and now I finally know it.

Just out of curiosity, could someone here who is native English speaker tell me what the word "gimp" means in English, or rather what concept/animal it indicates when it is specifically applied to Wilber, as Tuomas Kuosmanen does in his reply? Unfortunately, this noun is not present in my Italian-English dictionary and the translations that I obtained through several online translators were often uncertain.
Any examples or synonyms?

MrGlaceon · **Joined:** Jan 26, 2014 **Posts:** 28

To my knowledge, the word gimp means disabled, crippled; struggling to walk. It's strange that GIMP as an acronym, (GNU Image Manipulation Program.) is also a word for describing something that has difficulty keeping up.

Given GIMP's progress as an art program, compared to competing software, that does make some sense, but it's not that far off from being relevant and usable. (GIMP is easily a better choice than Photoshop Elements.) 2.8 versions were a huge leap forward for me in terms of what tools and effects I had at my disposal.

David Wood wrote:

Yes Gimp has the CMYK color dialog, but that has nothing to do with supporting CMYK. You need the CMYK color profile when you save an image to support it. You can only save an image as RGB, greyscale, or indexed. So Gimp has no CMYK support.

Thanks for clearing that up, David, I wasn't really sure how GIMP supported it, if at all. I'm trying to remember if Krita comes with a color profile for CMYK.

Gino D · **Joined:** Nov 06, 2012 **Posts:** 239 **Location:** Italy

MrGlaceon wrote:

To my knowledge, the word gimp means disabled, crippled; struggling to walk. It's strange that GIMP as an acronym, (GNU Image Manipulation Program.) is also a word for describing something that has difficulty keeping up.

Thanks, MrGlaceon, for your explanation.

In the past, I remember I also found that the term "gimp" could refer to something like a lanyard or little cord ("cordoncino" in Italian). As a proof of this, I have just ascertained that this is currently the only result proposed by the Google translate service for my language. In any case, I have the impression that neither the latter definition nor the one hinting at a "crippled" fellow are up to our mascot, so I find it odd that such a terminology can be used for describing him. :puzzled

Caz · **Posted:** Thu May 08, 2014 12:18 pm **(#39)**

Just had a look through a 1946 edition of Odhams Dictionary, it's a bit old but good for early definitions of words, and found these entries for Gimp

I like the second entry, I've always seen Wilber as a handsome sort.

MrGlaceon · **Joined:** Jan 26, 2014 **Posts:** 28

Wow, that is incredibly mind-opening, Caz. O: It's great you keep older dictionaries around, I'm blown away gimp originally had a very different definition. Kinda funny how language evolves like that.

I find the second definition pretty inspiring too. I wonder if that's what the original developers had in mind when they started GIMP? Its development does go pretty far back.